Designing a new machine

[Vend And Glow]

Hi Everyone.

You may be aware i was invited here by Noel because he liked the machine i had designed. I refused to sell the machine as it wasn't perfect in my opinion.

I am now in talks with my designer and we are going to design a new machine based on the feedback we have had from customers etc.

The new machine will have features you wont have seen before on a vending machine but at this stage i can't say anymore as i dont have patents yet.

The machine will vend single glowsticks a pack of 3 glow bracelets, single concert glowsticks (10 or 12 inches) glasses, bunny ears and all manner of other items including flashing noveltys.

I am also considering adding capsule vends on the machine and bouncy ball vends.
The capsules will contain smaller glow or flashing noveltys like glow mouths, mini glowsticks etc.

The machine will be able to vend almost anything within a certain size including tubs of sweets from snack a can or tubz vending.

I am also looking at certain outside venues to vend rain ponchos and umbrellas. These would be venues like Wimbledon, golf courses, the races like Aintree, theme parks etc.

The machine really will be multi use and in my opinion value for money as you are not commited to vending one type of product.

So what i want is your opinion please. What would you have on the machine if it was your choice, what would it vend (capsules too?) Is a £1.50 price point a good selling price for the glow or flashing novelties( £1 for capsules)?

Thanks

Lee

[Vendingwarehouse]

If it was me , I would be aiming for a two pound vend. The £1 vend should be and soon will be a thing of the past. And there are more £1 coins in the pocket than 50p coins. If the machine is going to do everything you say it will it may end up too dear to buy. Remember there is a direct correlation between the price of the machine , the vend price and the return on investment . I would decide what I was trying to vend and at what price first , and then design the machine within those financial and design barriers.

[Vendingwarehouse]

Was it not Matt that invited you on here?????

[Vend And Glow]

Was it not Matt that invited you on here?????

Yea it could have been actually!

[Vend And Glow]

If it was me , I would be aiming for a two pound vend. The £1 vend should be and soon will be a thing of the past. And there are more £1 coins in the pocket than 50p coins. If the machine is going to do everything you say it will it may end up too dear to buy. Remember there is a direct correlation between the price of the machine , the vend price and the return on investment . I would decide what I was trying to vend and at what price first , and then design the machine within those financial and design barriers.

To be honest the price of the machine will be cheaper than you may think. The unique design that i am looking at should ensure this. Also if you compare the price of a tower and it's vend price(£1) to mine (if it was a £2 vend) and then take into account the machine being able to vend many more products than a tower and in many more locations, then a ROI should prove worthwile. I should point out that in Butlins last year i was vending my tubes at £4 and some months the machines were doing around £400 in revenue!

We have reduced the Butlins price to £3 per vend now so we will see how that goes.

So imagine what the sales at £1 or £2 could be!

I would love to tell you more to back up my claims but i cant at this point.

[Big Chris]

Lee,

The amount of stuff you are looking at vending out of this machine, would be good and certainly give you a diversity that few others machines have, but it is going to be some size machine to get all of that out of it. Do you have dimensions for the machine?

Chris

[Vend And Glow]

Lee,

The amount of stuff you are looking at vending out of this machine, would be good and certainly give you a diversity that few others machines have, but it is going to be some size machine to get all of that out of it. Do you have dimensions for the machine?

Chris

Hi Chris

I am not entirely sure yet as i haven't had the engineering drawings back yet.

I am looking at the depth of the machine being pretty big as well as the height. The machine you can see on my website is very high around 1800mm but only 450mm wide. It fits very well where a lot of other machines can't fit and gives a good return on square metre.

I am looking at a depth of around 600-700mm.

The machine will hold around 700 tubes of the same size in total and will have up to 8 selections if needed.

I originally planned on selling the machines to operators like yourself but i think the cost of the machine may put people off once i have added my bit of the pie! so i will probably end up operating them myself. You never know though it may be cheap enough once i have sorted a return on investment.

[Vendingwarehouse]

Are you not contradicting yourself a bit there. First they might not be as dear as you would think ......then , the cost of the machine might put people off so you are going to operate them yourself. I'm confused.com.

[Rossi fan]

If it was me , I would be aiming for a two pound vend. The £1 vend should be and soon will be a thing of the past. And there are more £1 coins in the pocket than 50p coins. If the machine is going to do everything you say it will it may end up too dear to buy. Remember there is a direct correlation between the price of the machine , the vend price and the return on investment . I would decide what I was trying to vend and at what price first , and then design the machine within those financial and design barriers.

Hi Noel,

I am not sure it others agree, but in my areas, hardly anyone would buy a pot of sweets, or a capsulated toy for £2 and as a two coin vend has beed broadly discarded, I believe that thre £1 needs to stay until we have a growing economy and that is sometime away.

I like the idea of your vendor Lee. What floor area would it take up and what height is it likely to be.


Regards,

Paul

[Big Chris]

Lee,

Also if you were an operater and looking to buy this machine, then there would need to be value for the operater, depending on how much the product costs, you need to add the commission, by the sounds of the price of machine it would take such a long time to get your money back, i know you are quoting butlins and other holiday parks but the average operater only has a few differant types of venue away from the normal pub and kids area. So where would they be able to pull in the sales to recoup the money that has been spent on the machine?

Chris