Are tubz vending followers or leaders?

[Vendingwarehouse]

I meant the guy about the coin mechs Kris.

[kris@tubzbrandsltd]

Hi Noel,

I spoke with him about a hour ago and he said that he will call you today....

[Paul@HurleysFoods]

I personally think that the Rolos, Toblerone, Love Hearts and Fruit Pastilles look better without the confusion of another companys' logo. It would detract from the power of the brands label IMO. Pot design with lid going into pot provides strength to keep pot closed.

[Venderbase]

I agree, I dont put any labels on my Love Hearts.

[Vendition Ltd]

Kris there is 'much in it' I don't want to order 11 boxes of Toblerone I would probably only need about 7 at the most so your price was original priced way too high mate - just a shame you couldn't see this

Regards

Ross

[kris@tubzbrandsltd]

Hi Ross,

You did not have to order 11 boxes of Toblerone's... You could have either done 9 boxes for the lower rate of price on the box..

This was not a conversation we had at that time mate...

[Vendition Ltd]

Yea but you said your price is £37.23 per box so not much in it. It's only £37.23 if you order 11 boxes of Toblerone

[david@naughtyvend]

Ok Kris i understand what you are saying but even at that price its not a viable product to a proffessional vendor. i think you should of waited untill the euro came in if it ever does. The product is viable in Ireland with the 2 euro vend. Feel free to disagree but its my point of view. 40.95x10 devide by 11 =37.22p =44.66 +20% +4% flat rate vat+10p wages =78.66p= 21.3 p profit.

What you lads getting all 'hot under the collar' about?

All the companies such as Tubs, Hurleys etc. do a job for you in sourcing / storage / bulk buying / investment and that's money as well as time you don't need to invest, so they charge a premium for this. It's not too much to ask and if you need to get stressed out about saving 10p on prices (whilst I accept every penny counts) then shouldn't you be looking to sell a different product / product type or diversify instead, rather than re-invest in what looks to be a problematic side of the industry? A fair margin is exactly that but it's also fair of the buyer (as one has) to look at the position they could be in had they been reliant upon doing everything these providers do for them, by themselves.

Just saying my piece as an outsider but it seems to be a common discussion (a loose term) on this forum. You know there's several folks on this forum myself included could pick up the phone and order a 40' truck load of snacks from Spain and start re-selling them under our own brand, every asked yourselves why we are not doing just that...?

[Coin Operated Group]

Ok Kris i understand what you are saying but even at that price its not a viable product to a proffessional vendor. i think you should of waited untill the euro came in if it ever does. The product is viable in Ireland with the 2 euro vend. Feel free to disagree but its my point of view. 40.95x10 devide by 11 =37.22p =44.66 +20% +4% flat rate vat+10p wages =78.66p= 21.3 p profit.

What you lads getting all 'hot under the collar' about?

All the companies such as Tubs, Hurleys etc. do a job for you in sourcing / storage / bulk buying / investment and that's money as well as time you don't need to invest, so they charge a premium for this. It's not too much to ask and if you need to get stressed out about saving 10p on prices (whilst I accept every penny counts) then shouldn't you be looking to sell a different product / product type or diversify instead, rather than re-invest in what looks to be a problematic side of the industry? A fair margin is exactly that but it's also fair of the buyer (as one has) to look at the position they could be in had they been reliant upon doing everything these providers do for them, by themselves.

Just saying my piece as an outsider but it seems to be a common discussion (a loose term) on this forum. You know there's several folks on this forum myself included could pick up the phone and order a 40' truck load of snacks from Spain and start re-selling them under our own brand, every asked yourselves why we are not doing just that...?

David,

Being an outsider then you should be aware that if people arent happy then they complain. I too agree suppliers need to make money or they wouldnt be in business. But if a supplier is overcharging and the middleman ie forum members aren't making any money, then surely they have the right to get 'hot under the collar' as you put it?If suppliers are not made aware of peoples discontentions then how are they supposed to remedy them?

Regarding starting up a company, I dont think its quite as simple as ordering a few pallets and rebranding especially when the euro prices are so high at the moment.If it was I am sure there would be a whole lot more suppliers, the fact that all 3 of the sweet suppliers fill their own tubs shows the lucrative profits are no longer there to be made from importing.

I suppose the point raised about leaders or followers maybe points toward the fact that one of the companys have been packaging there own for quite some time and charging the same as those that were importing for less profit. Maybe that annoyed a few customers as they were aware of the huge profits being made, especially when operators were expected to be working on 20p profit per sale with increasing overheads. Maybe it was a mistake not dropping prices earlier to prevent the need for other companies to start up,who knows?

As an operator it is always good business practice to cut costs wherever possible. The major cost of this business is the goods you are buying and previously there was no competition with suppliers dictating price of goods. However
things have changed now, and if as an operator you are not happy with profits that are being made then it is up the the operator to let the supplier know that, and the best way to do that is to go to another supplier, not diversify.

[FlintVending]

well said Matt