Sorry Pablo didn't mean to make you sound like a moaner
I was just trying to point out that as long as you don't do anything silly like pay cash/bank transfer, you should be fine dealing with tubz vending and Hurley's for sites, as you can always get a refund from your card supplier if they don't supply you with something you have paid for!
I know a few people (me included) used to pay Diane direct by bank transfer, which is impossible to get a refund from when the sites don't arrive. But without trying to sound like a d**k, I only ever paid in fives so I didn't get stung for a couple of hundred, once she supplied me with five I would ask her to provide another five, and send her another £75.
I know most of the people that dealt with penguin Joe didn't receive anything for their money, and I only just dodged it myself by waiting a couple of weeks for reviews to appear on here, but again I would never order 30 sites at a time!!
I don't understand the sort of people that will hand over 20k to tubz vending for the promise of being able to site 100 machines, and then seem surprised when they still have 50 of them in their living room a year later
I have come to the realisation that the only way to get a good site that will last years is by finding it yourself, and by paying commission from the start. I am currently getting some brochures/leaflets designed to have a go myself, as I've realised the only way to get more than an occasional few mediocre sites is to get my fat northern ass out and find them myself!!
