Underhand Tactics

[Jimmy1361]

well I'm afraid we will have to agree to disagree on that one I don't want to wash my dirty boxers in public...

Jimmy,

You can say what you want about any supplier you always have been able to. Regarding talking to your suppliers to get things sorted, sometimes airing problems publicly is the best way to get things sorted albeit maybe a last resort.

[FlintVending]

I have heard from a few sources who will remain nameless as they are on this forum and don't want involved in this **** slinging that your engineer did try to poach a few other sites as well.

Regarding the charity contribution that all Snack A Can Franchisees make of which I am one, as you know we are fully audited and WE DO NOT imply that all the monies go to charity – no one would expect that as the stock costs money and I need a salary do you really think I'm doing this out of the goodness of my heart, what a daft thing to say! I think your company are being very creative with their thinking Snack A Can/Jelly Bean Campaign etc have raised in excess of £1m. The sites are not told all monies go to charity, they are told at the outset that a contribution of 5% goes. Why would we hide it? Our main business is providing a free vending service to the site and we chose to give monies to charity. The JBC is fully managed and controlled by the Vending Revolution who keep audited records and anyone who does not pay the due charity commission have their contracts terminated, these are the Franchisees who would probably go to you to buy stock as the Vending Revolution would not supply them. I could mention a certain individual on this very forum who has kept their bulk and Tower vendors on site for many months and is actually committing fraud.. At least being with the Vending Revolution I know that we ALL comply unlike other charity schemes which will remain nameless without management there is far too much room for vending operators to ‘forget’ to send off their monies. If the site wanted to check that monies are going, they only have to speak to Barbara who will show them proof of the quarterly commission returns that ALL franchisees have to sign, return and enclose their cheques made payable directly to the charity and the sites can speak to our charities as well. By the way, didn’t your company try to copy Snack A Can by creating tubz vending Campaign ... how much money did you raise???

I have 100 sites of which 20 are on site commission the remainder are charity commission for CHAS. I pay my charity dues on time and I return with that cheque which is made payable to CHAS not Vending Revolution or the Jelly Campain or Barbara's piggy bank, with the Charity return form which notes how much I have taken from the machines . I then check on my bank statements that the cheques are cashed by CHAS and not by Vending Revolution. I have also spoken to the Lady at CHAS when I did my due diligence who assured me that everything was all ok and above board and she said to me -- "We are very grateful to ANY Donations to CHAS" The Word ANY is important, I have stock to buy, a car to run, electricity to pay, food to buy, 2 kids to feed etc just like you lot..

Regarding Barbara and Pete and me being in their pocket --- CRAP
Barbara and I did have a real ding dong last year and I was very short and to the point over an issue which really made me angry and it's something they stuffed up, but believe it or not they are human and mistakes will happen it's life, BUILD A BRIDGE AND GET OVER IT DAMMITT!!! IT'S YOUR BUSINESS TAKE OWNERSHIP OF IT!!!! I called spoke to her she acknowledged the problem was theirs and shortly everything was settled amicably, how many of you can say that you have done that with any competitor? for me I am very happy with Vending Revolution/JBC/Snack A Can whatever you want to call it - better products, better service, I have very little grief etc. but when someone has a pop at them you're having a pop at me and I get very annoyed cos if I ever want to sell this business in future it's value with be diminished because of the crap on here, if you have a problem with Snack A Can tubz vending phone them and sort it out, like what I did, why would you come on here and moan about it when your business it going down the toilet.

Jimmy

Just a storm in a teacup??

Its a simple mistake!
I would have thought that obvious to most truly independant minds on here from Kris's explaination!

Why are you getting so so worked up about it, its not even your site?
Forget about all that crap about de valuing the brand, that is total nonsence.
Snack A Can as a brand has no more (or Less) value than tubz vending or Hurleys and anyone who thinks otherwise is sad and deluded!
If this were not the case then explain why the Snack A Can name on the cans is being dropped in favour of Brands that have TRUE value like Mars, Nestle etc!!

[Jimmy1361]

The Snack A Can name is not being dropped

[glennborthwick]

they did say they were going to phase it out or words to that effect. Something like we are working towards having all branded products in the tower.

[glennborthwick]

Vending Revolution newsletter
The change towards a totally branded range of professionally packaged cans is well under way with the aim of having little or no Snack-a-Can branded products in the range – and YOUR Towers - by the end of this year,

[Jimmy1361]

Originally I did think this forum would be a useful and friendly place of likeminded people for advice, leads etc but its really just a moaning shop and I think I have really wasted my time here, cos I got nothing out of it, I got flared a couple of times for speaking my mind and telling the truth the way I see it. I think cos I'm making my vending business work for me that really gets up peoples noses because Vending Revolution didn't work for them, is that jealously or the fact they just cant make it work for them... I think I've got to much other useful things to do then come here!

Bye.........

[Coin Operated Group]

Originally I did think this forum would be a useful and friendly place of likeminded people for advice, leads etc but its really just a moaning shop and I think I have really wasted my time here, cos I got nothing out of it, I got flared a couple of times for speaking my mind and telling the truth the way I see it. I think cos I'm making my vending business work for me that really gets up peoples noses because Vending Revolution didn't work for them, is that jealously or the fact they just cant make it work for them... I think I've got to much other useful things to do then come here!

Bye.........

Nobody has ever moaned at you personally just some of the comments you make that seem to be written by other people. If i remember correctly you have always complained since the forum began and never once mentioned how friendly it was ? It seems to me you have posted something which was maybe forwarded to you to cause some sort of propoganda and it has failed miserably apart from maybe pointing to some shortcomings in your own business model which you seem to harp on about so much.

I believe your last comments about 6 months ago were along the lines of 'ive had it with this forum and wont be posting any more'

Strange as you have no answers about the Vending Revolution brand being dropped, maybe nobody told you which cant be good especially when as you say yourself you consider yourself friends with said company.

Anyway please feel free to leave as and when you wish.

[Jimmy1361]

get this straight NO ONE tells me what to do not Barbara, Pete or anyone on this Forum. The views I have expressed on here are my own thoughts and I don't need anyone telling me otherwise

[Vendingwarehouse]

Well I can prove that it came from Barbara as I got the e-mail from you Jimmy. You may not have meant to send it to me but you did. I won't post it on here as it has a disclaimer at the bottom of it prohibiting me from distributing it. I will ask my solicitor if this is binding before I post it. But it definitely originated from Barbara , for what purpose I don't know . I have a vested interest in this forum and don't want to see it dragged thru the mud by anyone. I thought long and hard about posting this and ended up deciding to go ahead. Proof for sure that Babs will stoop to any level. Just like she did when she stole my deal with Stewart from under me and scooped up all the cheap machines . Nemisis is a *****.
tubz vending are my supplier at the moment and I have had many rows with them in the past but I won't have their name besmirched in the wrong. Babs is in the wrong this time.

Regarda

Noel

[glennborthwick]

interesting,
for me the proof of the pudding is in what happens when people try to sell up. I am always badgering those i know near me, who are independent and stock either tubz vending or hurleys for that matter, do you want to sell, call me first, you will get a fair price, knowing by and large there will be an average mix. Sometimes they sell to me , sometimes they dont. Snack A Can rounds come up on ebay and daltons and never seem to sell. You are ridiculously told not to name the company on your advert etc as well.