Its time to be a completely open forum

[Rossi fan]

Paul

I think the phrase I'm trying for is :

" You're pissing in the wind "

Fairness is only a word, and I'm sick to my back teeth of being told that this isn't fair. Sweetfix is a very late entrant into a saturated market, so immediately they were at a disadvantage. How are we going to redress that unfairness. Maybe ask tubz vending, Hurleys, Snack A Can for their customer database so that Sweetfix can pitch their prices. Jog on.

Maybe Gavin,, but my post has created discussion, which is why I started it. I take you points on board.

[glennborthwick]

im all fo teachers striking. You cant put in contributions for 25 years then suddenly the goalpost changes. Some people who are 52 are now told they have to work years longer. I know when i was teaching the private industry was sailing away earning more than me in the good times. Luckily you had other benefits to compensate. Now its alittle bit tough the private sector are all boo hoo. Do you think cameron and his eton educated lot have to worry about old age. No chance.

[Rossi fan]

Paul you sound like a socialist/communist wanting to participate in a commercial/capitalist world!!

Let me guess your all in favour for teachers going on strike even though the average age has gone up but the pension age stayed them same.

And we should carry on bailing out greece until the whole world has no money left.

oh and that gordon brown did great things for our economy.

I cannot see how someone who was very concerned about tubz vending seeing there posts in the PRIVATE forum when you were having problems with them has changed there opinion now you have it sorted out would like them to be able to join in along with suprise suprise Hurleys!!

Thats a bit like Tony blair calling for an end to world poverty while he makes 100's of millions for personal gain without giving little away!

Also for someone who was moaning about where the tower industry was going 9 months ago due to all prices rising and now benefitting hugely from the fact we offer stock out to some people which in turn brought down prices for everyone could just be the ironic Cherry on the irony cake!!

Cheers
Jonny

Ps mods please delete anything that people may find insulting. I don't want to cause any trouble just extremely frustrated.

Jonny,

You are completely wrong about my views on world affairs and these facts are irrelevant. I dont see how trying to assasinate my character is achieving anything. I think you should apologise.

I have constantly supported Sweetfix on this forum and this will not stop. My post has created a debate, which is exactly what I hoped for. Its openness that I am asking for- thats all, but from the comments made by the moderators, it may be a pipe dream. I fully appreciate how operators feel they have been badly treated by some suppliers in the past, but that is a seperate issue from my original post.

Please do not post in this manner about me in future. Clearly you are frustrated, but you should think before you post such remarks as they are not necessary and offensive.

Thanks,

Paul

[Jon123]

So you just stated you posted to created a debate and you hoped for it.

Well here is the definition of debate - "Debate or debating is a formal method of interactive and representational argument. Debate is a broader form of argument than logical argument, which only examines consistency from axiom, and factual argument, which only examines what is or isn't the case or rhetoric which is a technique of persuasion. Though logical consistency, factual accuracy and some degree of emotional appeal to the audience are important elements of the art of persuasion, in debating, one side often prevails over the other side by presenting a superior "context" and/or framework of the issue, which is far more subtle and strategic."

Summarising your character is completely relevant as this is the emotional and tactical part of the debate. Do you not watch the way politicians maul each other!?

In my opinion you have pretty much asked for everything you got if causing a debate was your intention. You clearly have caused trouble knowingly. At the same time avoided the biggest hypocrisy which is when you wanted the forum to be private to benefit you, you were happy but now it dosen't benefit you, you want it to change!!

I have no time for trouble makers which is why my response may appear brutal but are designed to get to the point. I don't have time to be nice if you show such a lkarge degree of ignorance.

Cheers
Jonny

[Rossi fan]

So you just stated you posted to created a debate and you hoped for it.

Well here is the definition of debate - "Debate or debating is a formal method of interactive and representational argument. Debate is a broader form of argument than logical argument, which only examines consistency from axiom, and factual argument, which only examines what is or isn't the case or rhetoric which is a technique of persuasion. Though logical consistency, factual accuracy and some degree of emotional appeal to the audience are important elements of the art of persuasion, in debating, one side often prevails over the other side by presenting a superior "context" and/or framework of the issue, which is far more subtle and strategic."

Summarising your character is completely relevant as this is the emotional and tactical part of the debate. Do you not watch the way politicians maul each other!?

In my opinion you have pretty much asked for everything you got if causing a debate was your intention. You clearly have caused trouble knowingly. At the same time avoided the biggest hypocrisy which is when you wanted the forum to be private to benefit you, you were happy but now it dosen't benefit you, you want it to change!!

I have no time for trouble makers which is why my response may appear brutal but are designed to get to the point. I don't have time to be nice if you show such a lkarge degree of ignorance.

Cheers
Jonny

Grow up Jonny- We are all entitled to have our views aired. A debate can be small, or large, you dont need to search Google to find the definitions.

Your views about me anre inaccurate and offensive, so please stop now.
Paul

[Venderbase]

Paul, you haven't started a debate on this subject, just a tirade!

Topic closed!

[mikeholness]

Well said Daz.

Paul

I dont understand why you started this post off at all.
Why are you bothered about fairness you buy from your supplier which you are obviuosly happy with.So why should you give two hoots who posts what and where on the forum.

The only reason I can see you stirring this up is to help out Hurleys more.
As a lot of people no on here you phone people up on Hurleys behalf trying to get them to convert to their products.Saying how wonderful they are.

Are you on a commission basis or do they give you free boxes of sweets.

Mike

Paul, you haven't started a debate on this subject, just a tirade!

Topic closed!

[Rossi fan]

Well said Daz.

Paul

I dont understand why you started this post off at all.
Why are you bothered about fairness you buy from your supplier which you are obviuosly happy with.So why should you give two hoots who posts what and where on the forum.

The only reason I can see you stirring this up is to help out Hurleys more.
As a lot of people no on here you phone people up on Hurleys behalf trying to get them to convert to their products.Saying how wonderful they are.

Are you on a commission basis or do they give you free boxes of sweets.

Mike

Paul, you haven't started a debate on this subject, just a tirade!

Topic closed!

Mike For absolute clarity, I dont phone people on Hurleys behalf trying to convert them. Thats for Hurleys to do. Your info, or guess is completely wrong.

I made it clear why I started it, but it seems that everyone on her has a different view to me, which is not a problem for me.

Lets move on,

Paul